secondary sort sorts by file location rather than the overall result

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harryray2
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secondary sort sorts by file location rather than the overall result

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On a related question, I tried using advanced (or secondary) sort, but I notice that the secondary sort sorts by file location rather than the overall result.

What I mean by that is that I normally have sorting set by date. I would like a secondary sort by size, but the size is sorted by the location of the file rather than the largest to smallest size.

Is there a way to make the secondary sort give the size not sorted by directory location?

Hope that makes some sort of sense.
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raccoon
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Re: Why folders and files are always seperated in the result

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See if test version 1.5 alpha responds the way you would like it to.
harryray2
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Re: Why folders and files are always seperated in the result

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No, I use 1.5, it doesn't appear to work
void
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Re: secondary sort sorts by file location rather than the overall result

Post by void »

Timestamps are essentially unique.

The secondary sort will mostly be ignored when the primary sort is a date.

Please try advanced sorting by:
Day Modified (not Date Modified) then
Size
harryray2
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Re: secondary sort sorts by file location rather than the overall result

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Thanks, I'm trying it out now...I'm having the same problem as I had (before adjusting) when using my other instance of Everything, that the cancel current sort box keeps popping up.

Are there advantages of using day modified/created over date modified/created?
void
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Re: secondary sort sorts by file location rather than the overall result

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There's a disadvantage because day modified/day created are not usually indexed so Everything will go to disk for this information.

This is most likely causing the cancel/wait dialog.
harryray2
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Re: secondary sort sorts by file location rather than the overall result

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I think, because of the time it takes to sort, day modified/created may be a bit too impractical to use.

The problem with the dialogue box is that it doesn't just pop up when using Everything but every time I click on anything else.
void
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Re: secondary sort sorts by file location rather than the overall result

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I'm looking into using the indexed date modified information for day modified.

Fow now, please consider specifying a date modified range for improved performance.
For example:
dm:thismonth sort:day-modified;size

Use a fast sort to avoid the cancel/wait dialog.

The next alpha update will remove blocking requests when losing focus.
harryray2
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Re: secondary sort sorts by file location rather than the overall result

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Thanks, I'm already using file sort but I still keep running into the problem of the dialogue box popping up all the time.
void
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Re: secondary sort sorts by file location rather than the overall result

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Could you please send some debug output:
  • Right click your Everything shortcut and click Properties.
  • Add -debug-log to the shortcut target, for example:
    Everything.exe -debug-log
    The next time you start this instance, could you please:
    ---wait for the Cancel current query dialog---
    From the Tools menu, under the Debug submenu, click Stop Debug Logging.
    ---this will open your Everything Debug Log.txt in Notepad---
    Could you please send this file to support@voidtools.com
After sending the debug logs, don't forget to disable debug logging mode:
  • Right click your Everything shortcut and click Properties.
  • Remove -debug-log to the shortcut target.
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Re: secondary sort sorts by file location rather than the overall result

Post by void »

Everything 1.5.0.1316a improves a lot of blocking requests.

Please let me know if you are still seeing the cancel/wait dialog.



Using the day modified from the indexed date modified property is still on my TODO list.
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