Define a column order that basically automatically applies to all searches / filters?

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Biff
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Define a column order that basically automatically applies to all searches / filters?

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How can one define a column order that basically automatically applies to all searches / filters, If there are no columns are specified in "Columns", "Edit Filter"?
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Re: Define a column order that basically automatically applies to all searches / filters?

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Define what you want in the Everything filter
and set this as the default on start-up.
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Define what you want in the Everything filter
Ah, I assume, it is the bug preventing the correct order of the columns. So actuallly this would be shown for all of the other filters (if there is not specified any other order), is that right?
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and set this as the default on start-up.
Where can I do this?
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Re: Define a column order that basically automatically applies to all searches / filters?

Post by void »

Please don't set the columns with the Everything filter.
This will make all your columns positions and widths temporary.

Please set your default columns under Tools -> Options -> Home.



Please don't set column1:=size: in your Everything filter.
This will hurt search performance.
Everything will need to assign the size to the column 1 property for all files (slowish).

Use the Size on disk property instead of column 1.
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Re: Define a column order that basically automatically applies to all searches / filters?

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Sorry, I do not understand:
Define what you want in the Everything filter
This sounds as if I should set everything in that Everything filter.

And this sounds like I should not do it:
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How should I best understand this?
Please don't set the columns with the Everything filter.
This will make all your columns positions and widths temporary.
In the Everything filter only? Or in all filters?
Please set your default columns under Tools -> Options -> Home.
So is this right?

So I removed the columns here:
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And added them here:
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Is this good / correct?
Please don't set column1:=size: in your Everything filter.
This will just hurt search performance.
In that single filter? Or in all of the filters? Why is that?

So I removed this: column1:=size:
and
;column1
Use the Size on disk property instead.
Not the normal "size"? Why?

Size on disk is added:
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But size on disk is not shown here:
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How chould I show it?
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Re: Define a column order that basically automatically applies to all searches / filters?

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Please don't set the columns with the Everything filter.
This will make all your columns positions and widths temporary.
In the Everything filter only? Or in all filters?
Please try to avoid columns: in the Everything filter only.


Please set your default columns under Tools -> Options -> Home.
So is this right?
No, please leave the search empty and set the columns field.


Please don't set column1:=size: in your Everything filter.
This will just hurt search performance.
In that single filter? Or in all of the filters? Why is that?
Please avoid column1:= in the Everything filter only.
Other filters are fine.

Assigning column 1 isn't free, you should avoid doing this for all files.


Not the normal "size"? Why?
Use the normal size property if you can.


But size on disk is not shown here:
How chould I show it?
Press Alt + Home or close and reopen the window.
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Oops, sorry, how embarrassing, so this is right now, I hope:
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Assigning column 1 isn't free, you should avoid doing this for all files.
Sorry, I don not understand, what does that mean? What does "free" mean here?
Use the normal size property if you can.
Sorry for my confusion, so not the size on disk after all? Why should I have used it at all (before)? "Size" is the usual information about the size of a file that is commonly used? And to use "size on disk" I would have to use an extra property, I assume.
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Oops, sorry, how embarrassing, so this is right now, I hope:
This look fine.


Assigning column 1 isn't free, you should avoid doing this for all files.
Sorry, I don not understand, what does that mean? What does "free" mean here?
Assigning column 1 will cost some CPU cycles.
This is fine for a filter that limits your results.
I would avoid doing this for all files with the Everything filter.


Use the normal size property if you can.
Sorry for my confusion, so not the size on disk after all? Why should I have used it at all (before)? "Size" is the usual information about the size of a file that is commonly used? And to use "size on disk" I would have to use an extra property, I assume.
This was only an idea for the request of showing two size columns, one with an auto size (eg: Bytes/KB/MB) and another always in bytes.
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Re: Define a column order that basically automatically applies to all searches / filters?

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Yes, a good idea, thank you.

"Size" is the usual information about the size of a file that is commonly used when the size information is shown? Or is it "size on disk"?
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"Size" is the usual information about the size of a file that is commonly used when the size information is shown? Or is it "size on disk"?
Size in Everything means the file content length.
It is the same "Size" you will see in Windows Explorer.



Size on disk is a different property in Everything.
Size on disk will be the actual size of the file stored on disk for NTFS volumes.
For other volumes it will be the file size rounded up to the nearest cluster size.
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Size in Everything means the file content length.
Sorry, what is meant by the size of the length? "Size" is not the real size (e.g. 3 MB) of the file?
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The file content size.

If you display size as KB, MB or Auto, then the size is rounded up/down.
For example, 12345678 bytes might be displayed as 11.7MB
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The file content size.
So it is not the size of the file? What is the difference?

Sorry, I still do not understand what the length has to do with the size.
If you display size as KB, MB or Auto, then the size is rounded up/down.
For example, 12345678 bytes might be displayed as 11.7MB
Yes, I understand.
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Re: Define a column order that basically automatically applies to all searches / filters?

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Sorry, I am making this more confusing..

Size is the size of the file.
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Re: Define a column order that basically automatically applies to all searches / filters?

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Oops, er....well...actually....I mean...well well....this exactly is what....er...er...now I understand...sorry...
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