Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player (Winamp) [RESOLVED]

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Thy Grand Voidinesss
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Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player (Winamp) [RESOLVED]

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If in any program I quickly double left-click on a video file, then it is send automatically and immediately to my default video player. If in any program I quickly double left-click on an audio file, then it is also send automatically and immediately to my default audio player - with the exception of doing so in Everything. Because it takes ~30 second for the file to be sent to my Winamp. During this waiting time Everything freezes; although peculiarly without a system info popping up from Windows about program being unresponsive

I have no such time delay when dragging from Everything and dropping the very same files to any player including Winamp. There is also no time delay with opening through Everything locations containing those files


I am using Everything 1.5.0.1346a x64 Portable and Winamp 5.8 Build 3660 x86 on Windows 10 Enterprise 20H2
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

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I don't have such delays with my default audio and video player MPC-HC
which comes with the K-Lite Standard Codec Pack.
Start of audio or video files from Everything takes max 2 seconds and it plays.
Whats the location of your media files ?
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

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As I said, using comparisons, such absurd delay happens only for audio files and only in Everything. My default video player MPC-HC starts gigabytes weighting video files immediately

And the location of audio files being the culprit has been ruled out be me
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

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And this happens with all media files that you (double-click to) open in Winamp?

Does Winamp "inject" anything or have any type of "extension" or even a "shell icon"?
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

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If your default video player is MPC-HC what is the reason not to use it for audio ?
You said its starts fast for videos, I guess it will also be fast on audio.
At least it does it for me.
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

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Are you running Everything as administrator? ("Administrator" is shown in the title bar.
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

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therube wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 2:51 pm And this happens with all media files that you (double-click to) open in Winamp?
I have only audio files associated with Winamp

And all of them are affected and only in Everything

therube wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 2:51 pm Does Winamp "inject" anything or have any type of "extension" or even a "shell icon"?
I do not use any modifications, despite being advanced and long time me user of Winamp

horst.epp wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 3:57 pm If your default video player is MPC-HC what is the reason not to use it for audio ?
[...]
Because Winamp has what MPC-HC and other players do not, starting with its Windowshade mode AKA a thin bar always showing me what I am listening too along with additional info meticulously added to files be me with usage of Mp3tag

And because it is my default video player


And please refrain from suggesting to people usage of other software or hardware when they are asking specifically about what they use and not just programs or gadgets in general

NotNull wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 4:18 pm Are you running Everything as administrator? ("Administrator" is shown in the title bar.
I should have thought about checking elevation status on both programs in question

But to answer yours: I had a long time ago my Everything set to be run with privileges
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

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Thy Grand Voidinesss wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 6:54 pm Because Winamp has what MPC-HC and other players do not, starting with its Windowshade mode AKA a thin bar always showing me what I am listening too along with additional info meticulously added to files be me with usage of Mp3tag

And because it is my default video player
You said the opposite above
"My default video player MPC-HC starts gigabytes weighting video files immediately"
Sorry this is the simple reason why I asked
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

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horst.epp wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 7:03 pm [...]
You said the opposite above
[...]
I do not think so

In my initial post I wrote about video files being starting in video player from Everything without a sweat and about audio files in audio player with delay present only in Everything- with the last one being identified as Winamp
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

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Thy Grand Voidinesss wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 6:54 pm I have only audio files associated with Winamp

And all of them are affected and only in Everything[
[...]
Long story short: all signs point out to some fatal non-fixable error in system files; or I am now experiencing more than one malfunction at the same time, masking as such

I will have to restore my system from an image - and see if the original problem will still be present
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

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No issues on my end, fires up immediately.
Winamp 5.9.2 & I associated .mp3 with Winamp.

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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

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Thy Grand Voidinesss wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 7:05 pm
horst.epp wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 7:03 pm [...]
You said the opposite above
[...]
I do not think so

In my initial post I wrote about video files being starting in video player from Everything without a sweat and about audio files in audio player with delay present only in Everything- with the last one being identified as Winamp
Read your own post please, here the link
viewtopic.php?p=56999#p56999
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

Post by Thy Grand Voidinesss »

I just have. And I know what [at I think] I had written

It is obvious that one of use has not sufficient command of the English language - which is irrelevant anyhow
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

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Running Everything as administrator will cause slow or no communication with other applications.



Please make sure Everything is installed correctly and running as a standard user:
  • In Everything, from the Tools menu, click Options.
  • Click the General tab on the left.
  • Check Store settings and data in %APPDATA%\Everything.
  • Uncheck Run as administrator.
  • Check Everything Service. (Please make sure this is tick-checked and not square-checked)
  • Click OK.
  • Exit Everything (right click the Everything tray icon and click Exit).
  • Restart Everything.
Please make sure Everything is running as a standard user:
  • Right click your Everything.exe or a shortcut to Everything
  • Click Properties.
  • Click the Compatibility tab.
  • Uncheck Run this program as an administrator.
  • Click OK.
Please make sure Everything is running as a standard user:
  • Right click your Everything.exe or a shortcut to Everything
  • Click Properties.
  • Click the Shortcut tab.
  • Click the Advanced button.
  • Uncheck Run as administrator.
  • Click OK.
  • Click OK.
Please make sure Everything is running as a standard user:
  • Right click your Everything.exe or a shortcut to Everything
  • Click Properties.
  • Click the Compatibility tab.
  • Click the Change settings for all users button at the bottom.
  • Uncheck Run this program as an administrator.
  • Click OK.
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player [Winamp]

Post by Thy Grand Voidinesss »

horst.epp wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 8:38 pm [...]
Read your own post please, here the link
viewtopic.php?p=56999#p56999
That was an unfortunate waste of time. I have explained this to @NotNull via PM

All in all: Winamp always has been my default audio player while MPC-HC has been for video only. And I am not changing this. And that's that

Thy Grand Voidinesss wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 7:09 pm [...]
I will have to restore my system from an image - and see if the original problem will still be present
Unfortunately yes

void wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 11:35 pm Running Everything as administrator will cause slow or no communication with other applications.
[...]
Please make sure Everything is running as a standard user:
Add so it seems that it comes down to [in my particular case] not selecting this one option available at

Tools > Options > General > Run as administrator


But I think there was a reason to why I had it selected, but cannot recall now for what it was needed for my smooth daily usage of Everything. I recon I will come back to this topic if a need or me running Everything in an elevated state manifests itself

[So for now the issue has been dealt with; thank you all for participating in this topic]
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Re: Very slow sending of audio files to default audio player (Winamp) [RESOLVED]

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Thy Grand Voidinesss wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 9:02 pm That was an unfortunate waste of time. I have explained this to @NotNull via PM
There is a reason why it is called PM (Personal Message). It is not meant to make public. I am quite disappointed to put it mildly ...

It also is not a representation of that conversation: you *tried* to explain it, but failed.
(and don't start all over here again)
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