Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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Biff
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Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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Could data like this be stored and shown (like it's done in the normal index view) in the file lists:
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Why obviously are these properties not shown in file the lists?
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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EFU file lists can store any properties.

All visible columns are exported to an EFU file from File -> Export.



When you open a file list (File -> Open File List)
All properties stored in the EFU file are available to Everything.



Please make sure you gather all property values before exporting:
In Everything, from the Edit menu, click Select All.
From the File menu, click Read extended information.



When you index a file list (Tools -> Options -> File Lists)
Only indexed properties (under Tools -> Options -> Properties) are available to Everything.

So in short, you need to index these properties.
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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Yes yes, they / all of the obove ones are / should be indexed. But why then are they not shown?

The length (indexed with the properties above, repectively I thought so) is the only one being shown:
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I exported by pressing CTRL+S.

Why is the length shown but the others are not?
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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Please make sure you gather all property values before exporting:
In Everything, from the Edit menu, click Select All.
From the File menu, click Read extended information.
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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Biff wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 8:13 am Why is the length shown but the others are not?
It may depend on the file type.
For me, e.g. video and audio formats are displayed for a wide variety of file types.
Biff
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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Sorry, what does that mean?
Please make sure you gather all property values before exporting:

In Everything, from the Edit menu, click Select All.
From the File menu, click Read extended information.
Sorry, I do not understand at all. Pressing CTRL+S is not enough? By doing that only "length" (and the standard data) is exported? So just pressing CTRL+S does not work for exporting the properties? The properties are not gathered when pressing CTRL+S?

This message is shown all the time again and again over minutes now or longer, so it does not seem to work, respectively seems to be impractical here somehow:
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It may depend on the file type.
So it is not known if it is?
For me, e.g. video and audio formats are displayed for a wide variety of file types.
OK. Only "length" is displayed here, no other property.
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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Sorry, I do not understand at all. Pressing CTRL+S is not enough?
No, only indexed and gathered information is exported.

Information is gathered for visible items, by using File -> Read extended information or by sorting.


By doing that only "length" (and the standard data) is exported?
My guess is you are indexing Length information?
What properties are you indexing under Tools -> Options -> Properties?


So just pressing CTRL+S does not work for exporting the properties?
It does, you just need to gather unindexed information first with File -> Read extended information.


The properties are not gathered when pressing CTRL+S?
No, you must do this manually with File -> Read extended information.


This message is shown all the time again and again over minutes now or longer, so it does not seem to work, respectively seems to be impractical here somehow:
Gathering information will take a long time.
A progress bar is shown at the bottom right of the status bar.
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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My guess is you are indexing Length information?
Sorry for my bad understanding. Yes yes, length is indexed. Together with the other properties (on the screenshots above).
What properties are you indexing under Tools -> Options -> Properties?
These ones:
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It does, you just need to gather unindexed information first with File -> Read extended information.
How could one achieve that pressing CTRL+S (or another key combination) ALWAYS automatically exports ALL properties (so without having to click "Read extended information", getting a message, etc.)?
The properties are not gathered when pressing CTRL+S?

No, you must do this manually.
Why is lenght exported but other properties are not?
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Or / and may be in the window shown after pressing CTRL+S the option "Read extended information" would be great (so that one could guess that only a part of the properties would be exported without activation). A check box (preactivated and / or having the status set the last time or / and a button additionally to the "Save" button: "Save / export with extended information" or such.
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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How could one achieve that pressing CTRL+S (or another key combination) ALWAYS automatically exports ALL properties (so without having to click "Read extended information", getting a message, etc.)?
Currently, no.

It's possible to index properties under Tools -> Options -> Properties so the information is available when exporting.
If you do add indexed properties, please make sure the indexing properties process is complete (progress is shown at the bottom right of the status bar)


Why is lenght exported but other properties are not?
Please check the exported EFU file.
Open the exported EFU file as text. (for example: open with Notepad)
What does the top line show?
This top line is the header and describes the properties included in the EFU file list.


Or / and may be in the window shown after pressing CTRL+S the option "Read extended information" would be great (so that one could guess that only a part of the properties would be exported without activation). A check box (preactivated and / or having the status set the last time or / and a button additionally to the "Save" button: "Save / export with extended information" or such.
A checkbox to read extended information in the export dialog is on my TODO list.
Thank you for the suggestion.
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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That's great, thank you. I guess, that checkbox would keep the setting the user used the last time, so pressing CTRL+S automatically would export ALL of the properties.

Many thanks again!
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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Biff wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 9:25 am Why is lenght exported but other properties are not?
Here an example.

Options - 1.5.0.1345a (x64)
Properties: NO Video Format and NO Audio Format

Filter: Video
Columns added: Video Format, Audio Format (from Everything Properties)

For these file extensions, the columns are filled (partly only the column "Video Format), e.g.
MP4, wmv, mpg, VOB, MOV, AVI, asf, mkv, webm, etc.

For these file extensions, the columns are NOT filled on my PC, e.g.
flv, 3gp, swf, etc.

Maybe it would help if you just tried a few file extensions.
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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Ah, OK, thank you!

Oops, a new version is available, missed that again.
For these file extensions, the columns are filled (partly only the column "Video Format), e.g.
MP4, wmv, mpg, VOB, MOV, AVI, asf, mkv, webm, etc.

For these file extensions, the columns are NOT filled, e.g.
flv, 3gp, swf, etc.
Maybe with the properties of the online volumes only.

Here it looks like the "lenght" is available for ALL videos (of all drives).
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There is no progress bar visible:
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Everything greys out while the information is gathered. So there is no progress bar shown. Is there a way to show it though?

Is there a way to stop the gathering (when that gathering message is not shown)?

I marked a drive letter in the folder panel, clicked in the result list, pressed CTRL+A (to mark about 1 mio. items), then CTRL+E, waited about 30 minutes and clicked the save button in that save window. I opened the efu list but there are no properties shown besides of the lenght:

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What am I missing?

Could Everything play a sound when finishing gathering?
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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tuska wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 9:55 am Maybe it would help if you just tried a few file extensions.
Biff wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 12:52 pm I marked a drive letter in the folder panel, clicked in the result list, pressed CTRL+A (to mark about 1 mio. items), ...
I opened the efu list but there are no properties shown besides of the lenght:...
Sometimes you always ask the same questions, but then unfortunately you don't respond to suggestions.
Therefore, I take my leave of this topic.
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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Biff wrote: Mon May 08, 2023 12:52 pm
I marked a drive letter in the folder panel, clicked in the result list, pressed CTRL+A (to mark about 1 mio. items), then CTRL+E, waited about 30 minutes and clicked the save button in that save window. I opened the efu list but there are no properties shown besides of the lenght:
Sorry but why do you use 1 million items to test ?
Thats just wasting time.
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Sometimes you always ask the same questions, but then unfortunately you don't respond to suggestions.
Very sorry about that, but I never in my life time ever would ask the same question twice or more, come what may. And I never would not respond to a suggestion.
Therefore, I take my leave of this topic.
Holy...I wouldn't have expected that. What a pity!
Sorry but why do you use 1 million items to test ?
Because I wanted a file list of that drive.
Thats just wasting time.
Well, well, yes, yes, that's true, but what do you want to do if you want a file list?
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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OK guys (M/F), it is time for a more friendly and helpful approach ...

@void had a very good suggestion:
Open the generated EFU file in Notepad (or similar) and check the first line, the header of the EFU list.
Please post that first line here.

While testing an trying to get this to work, it is better to start with a small set of files.
So if you want to generate a fresh EFU list, change your search query so there are max 100 results.
  • In Everything, enable the Video filter ( I assume this was all about videos)
  • Create a search that gives you less than 100 results.
    Make sure you add online: to the search, as Everything can not read properties of files that are offline (if not indexed).
    Example search:

    Code: Select all

    online:   "c:\video\"   dm:2022
    
  • Right-click the resultlist header, for example on Name
  • Select Add Colums from teh context menu
  • Select Video in the left pane
  • Click in the right pane
  • Select all the properties you are interested in ('CTRL + click' to add properties to the selection)
  • Click the OK button
    (Back in the main window, you will see Everything reading properties).
  • Press 'CTRL + A' to select all videofiles
  • Menu:File => Read Extended Information
    Statusbar (left) should say "Readuing Extended Information ..; statusbar right shows a progress bar
  • Wait until progress bar disappears
  • Browse through the result list and check if all seems as expected
  • Menu:File => Export
  • Save as EFU file
  • Open the EFU file in Notepad
  • Post the first line, maybe the first 5 lines if privacy allows.
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Many thanks!

OK, done.

Everything is like it should be, I would expect it I would think (do not know why), besides of there obviously are exported much more files than I had selected. Edit: Ah, no, it does not work, when I use different filters, bookmarks the properties are gone:
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Or maybe it is not caused by the file list at all. It might be the old problem I have. Maybe with another impact on file lists. So maybe the export works but the filters, bookmarks do not. Or I do not. Or what ever.

Here the first lines in a text editor:

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But I am not able to export 1 mio. files / the entire drive or even about 5000 files correctly, there still are all of the properties missing, besides of lenght, in text editor here:
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I guess, I just will leave it like it is for now. At the moment I can cope without the missing properties.

Thank you very much!
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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Thank you for the information Biff,
There is no progress bar visible:
@Biff, could you please send a mini crash dump with the "Cancel current read extended information?" dialog shown: Normally, this dialog should not be shown unless you try to interact with the results.


Here the first lines in a text editor:
The EFU file looks good, it has the correct headers and there is one item with values for all fields.
If you open this EFU file, and sort by each properties, is there at least a few files with correct values?
-This will help determine if Everything is having trouble loading the EFU file.

My guess is the exported EFU does not have the property values for all items as the information had not been gathered yet.
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Re: Could data like available free disk size be stored and shown in the file lists?

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Many thanks!
There is no progress bar visible:

@Biff, could you please send a mini crash dump with the "Cancel current read extended information?" dialog shown:
Sorry, I meant there normally is that process bar available but not in that moment when Everything was greyed out ("No response"). So generally it is shown.
If you open this EFU file, and sort by each properties, is there at least a few files with correct values?
Sorry, at the moment I do not make it to export a file list with that properties (besides of the lenght and the standard properties / columns like size).

So I just will leave it as it is for now. I guess I just can't get along with these lists. So it's not necessary that you make any effort for my sake.

Thank you very much!
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